I was reading GrabCAD's guidelines, and read this in the "Do Not" section:
"…solicit or market for a private business or website. It’s tempting to want to use GrabCAD as a platform to advertise for your business, but it is against our guidelines to do so. Feel free to include a link to your business on your profile page, but please do not direct members to your business using comments, questions, tutorials, model descriptions, or direct messages".
My question is, Is this considered against the rules ???
By the way, it's totally OK for me to delete those 2 lines in ALL my previous designs, it's just that I wanted to ensure that I'm not doing anything against the guidelines.
I'm nobody important here, so don't assume my opinion means much.
Where would the above message be posted? The rules say it should not be posted in comments, questions, tutorials, models, or direct messages... The rules you found were created before the Groups, and Tutorial sections existed, so I'd feel pretty confident about adding both to the "not here" list as well.
I don't think there is anywhere left to post the message/URL.
You could write something like "For more tutorials, you can find me on FaceBook, the URL is in my GrabCAD Profile"
I'd make some portion of that like "GrabCAD Profile" a direct clickable link which leads to your profile page.
Well, I disagree with you.
You actually ARE somebody important here. Don't believe me, this is enough:
I do respect your answer and I actually intended to delete it too, but I just wanted to ensure, that's because I've seen many "GrabCAD"ers do the same thing without seeing any disagreement. (like here, here, here, here, here, here and here) - (and this is repeated in ALL of their uploads).
Anyways, thanks for your suggestion. I think I'll do that.
Nah, don't confuse numbers with importance :)
If I had a photo of a cute girl for my avatar, I bet I could have at least tripled my Profile View, and Follower counts ;)
I checked the links you referenced, and most break the rule. The one exception looks to be the Complex Ball. He has a YouTube link, but those are allowed, even encouraged.
I'd say it is a difficult rule to enforce. Certainly the Report button can and should be pressed for the models you've cited as examples. I'm always pressing the report button... I feel like I write the Community Manager more than I write me wife :)
I try to reserve pressing the Report button for people and practices that are particularly annoying, but yes, we should all be following the same rules when posting models.
Advertising is not the answer to more views. likes, or followers on social media sites. Content is what people are after. Keep posting quality material or a regular basis, and people will keep coming back.
Thanks a lot for your understanding,
But now I'm getting confused ...
Why should YouTube channels be allowed/encouraged?
My Facebook page isn't a "private business or website", so what should be reported and what shouldn't??
I don't mind many of the example you've shown. Hyperlinks are pretty obvious to the eye so you can just ignore them if they show up in descriptions, which is where they should stay.
I think the rules are meant to deter people from commenting stuff like: "Check out my awesome page here..." I personally don't mind if they're on someones profile page, in a description of a file, or if they're requested.
I've got my fair share of unsolicited inbox messages to vote for something or check out someone's website, which is not on. Plus, the staff here obviously intended for it to appear to some degree, hence the ability to embed videos, and link websites.
I know where you're coming from, but inundating the staff with 'reports' about outside links like that will likely make it much more hazy in the future with regard to enforcing it.
Still confused, Should they be banned or not?
And if they shouldn't, then why was this rule made at first place?
I would say that unsolicited ones should be banned. That and models which don't contain any parts but redirect to websites where they can be purchased as well. Otherwise, I don't see anything wrong with someone modestly promoting their site via a hyperlink on their profile or a video explaining how something was made.
YouTube links are somewhat encouraged by having a badge available for posting ten models with links to YouTube videos of the model. Not just ten animations uploaded, for the badge to work, they have to be YouTube links.
Why are YouTube videos good, and other URLs bad? I have no idea.
The "rules" should ideally all exist in one location, and be an easy resource to reference. Maybe it would even show good and bad examples of different situations? Right now the "rules" are rather spread out.
I really don't mind people posting URLs in model descriptions. The space is so limited that they are often off the page anyway. But sure, if there is a rule against doing it, then nobody should be doing it, and models should be reported.
Things that are wrong/bad here are often easy to spot, and should be reported. I ask myself this simple question before pressing Report: If a majority of the members here were doing this, would it detract from the site? Yes? Press report. No? Don't bother.
Hey Yahya,
After discussing with the GrabCAD team I can definitely tell you based off the current guidelines you are not allowed to link your personal website in discussions. But you can direct users to your GrabCAD profile and link your website on the profile which we give you to the option to do if you go into the edit section of the profile. If there are any more questions don't be afraid to ask me.
Thanks
Kesa
GrabCAD Community Manager.
Kesa,
That leads to what will be done regarding the half dozen examples in violation of the guideline which Yahya T Khedr posted as examples.
Do most actions take place after a model is reported?, or is there a way to scan the library for descriptions containing links outside of what the guidelines allow?
I have to imagine that if one of the examples above has links to personal sites, then most/all of the models by that person will have the same links in the descriptions.
This seems like one of those projects which never ends once it is started. Maybe it would work to post an advance/voluntary option to repair models in violation by a specific deadline. Models which are unfixed at that time are subject to editing/removal?
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