I have emailed grabcad twice now over the last month about miss use of a few 3d models. I also reported those models via the report command before that.
No response whatsoever.
Is this normal grabcad behavior?
All i want is 2 models to be removed that are uploaded without permission and without credit.
Doesn't seem like they have applied any of that advertising revenue they are raking in towards staffing at all. Wondering if the nit-wits that post the sources to buy oxycodone and other drugs are paying advertisers also?
Almost daily and in different places of the GC interface I report "incorrect content (spam and/or violations of its rules)" + "ghost users and/or hacker apprentices playing freely in GC" + "models that only have images but they don't load any CADD files" + "entire galleries based on models downloaded from SKF, WEB, MOTOVARIO, etc. etc." + "users who do not answer the questions, but put their personal data to be hired to resolve the situation" + .... + .... + ...
Until now, I have never had confirmation (yes or no) of a report nor have I seen it become effective...
Seeing the discussions of colleagues who have been in GC for a long time and who are recognized for their contributions and behaviors, I realize that "it is a losing battle to sue what is wrong" because, in some way, these bad behaviors are beneficial to GC , and we are part of a small group of "disgruntled users" who have no relevance to generating changes. It is valued a "Mr.Blue" who fraudulently entered and grew in a few days... but users like "Hans, Bob, Steen and many other valuable and old in GC" fail to turn the tide of things that are wrong (even "terribly and visibly wrong" as the stuff uploaded by some GC "trash gurus").
So that you don't think I'm exaggerating when I say "GC dump" I'll give you an example (very fresh, recently uploaded). If you check galleries of fake gurus, you will find thousands of aberrational things like this!
Many times I post complaints and then I get angry and delete them, because I feel that they are kidding me (me and everyone) and that on the other side they laugh at the tantrums thrown by users who respect the rules.
I don't think that Stratasys will react on something regarding GC. They are done with it, for them is GC only a annoying zombie that they can't get rid of it. Who knows, perhaps Mila Jovovich will be hired to clean the mess. I don't think that they have any IT that's looking at any more, Yasinis the last one who's taking a look from time to time when he's bored and it's no better entertainment around. We are for him the tiny aliens from Locker C-18. Knows somebody where agent K's wristwatch is? Haven't seen it for a long while ...
Even ""better"....In order to reach your plate with food, this Designer introduced his famous levatated, hovering chairs....(what I believe is one of the greatest inventions in furniture design) Unfortunately the "Zero gravity device" can't lift the chairs high enough to eat properly....
Diners must contribute their own: meditate like Tibetan monks until they levitate to achieve the desired height. It is an advanced food control system where, if you want very very very much to reach for the food... you will levitate and, when you do, you will realize that you no longer need to eat!
Only a great teacher can design like this, we will have to accept it with the help of our psychologists, psychiatrists and existential motivators. GC has already understood this a long time ago, but we have a big job ahead of us!
We are so lucky this "master" is amongst us...Most of the times disguised as a typical member, but once in a while we see a glance of his magnificence and greatness.....(lucky us....)
Here the same, I've been having troubles since I opened this account, I can't upload any file. I sent them at least three emails and I'm still waiting... Any solution guys?.
I believe this should be fixed now :)
Yes sir, everything works again. Next time I'll contact with you instead wasting my time writing emails to nowhere. Thanks you again.
Please keep in mind that I'm not in support team, so I have limited access and time.
But I can help with more basic tasks such as blocking/unblocking, account deletion/recovery and cleaning up spam users/contents :)
Hi. I sent you a PM.
good for Yasin, the only GrabCAD employee who does anything to help us.
Can GrabCAD please promote this guy to the support team and sack the rest
I think that the support team has already left; two out of three moderators for this group is gone and the third never posts. But apparently there is no rush to appoint new ones as long as Yasin is here to pick up the pieces...?
As long as we see these kind of models (looks like an old death "neck breaking" chair, from the spanisch inqusition period, with only one arm rest (4 likes and counting) there is still a long way to go, before "the pieces are picked up"...
Perhaps you should actively participate in the "Furniture designers" group and enjoy the teachings, recommendations and indiscriminate wisdom (almost inhuman, I would say) of furniture wizard.
For example: "Read the Neufert and learn standard of dimension"
You don't realize that drawing things aligned, complete and logical takes you away from the path of magic!
I know a "guy" who wrote his own "standard of dimensions", this makes his "modeling" much easier...(no more boundries)
If you think that's crazy, well, it's not. I had a colleague who did this and tried to make me follow it because he was "older" there. He had no clue about DIN/ISO-Standards so he wrote a "guideline" about how models and drawing have to be made. I never enjoyed so much to take apart someones "world" giving him hints about the standards that describes exactly what he intended but in a professional way and without his lack of knowledge. Was fun. Not for him.
This is perhaps why the GC team doesn't respond...The all are "invited" by MAB, to sit on the "neckbreaker, the chair of death"...Jackson Eckenrode (CG staff) is next....Weird though that MAB is getting rid of his "dear (CG) friends".....
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Yasin, i'm not gonna put any more effort into this Mad Circus, that was once a great website, it has become a kindergarten and I don't want to be a part of it anymore....If members like MAB can continue uploading their (stolen) work, violating rules, and GrabCad thinks it's fine and OK, than it's perhaps time to leave...over and out...
Steen, it seems the rules HAS changed...Below the reaction from Yasin about me accusing MAB from using work from www.ameede.net (proven with a link to the ameede material) I always believed it was quite simple..."do not upload work from others", but it seems to be a bit more complicated...It now has to do with "ownership" of the downloaded material and if this original owner gives his permission to use it...It seems that is than OK to upload work from others at GrabCad...To be honest, I'm lost....don't understand it anymore...but anyway, I think I own MAB an appology for calling him "a thief and a fraudulent pathetic liar" Since he is an active member from ameede he is using his own work, that he uploaded there......So it seems everything is OK, see the explanation below. How could I have been so mistaken....(item 2 explains it all)
1- Perhaps the person at ameede.net also took this from someone or somewhere else? Unless authors specify the license or copyright, there's no way to find out. It's not certain who is the original owner.
2- IIRC MAB told me that he is also an active member of ameede.net and using models from there or uploading his models there.
3- We do not know who is the original owner of the lion table legs model, or if MAB has permission to use it or not.
I am not sure how you can be 'an active member at ameede.net' since the site doesn't accept membership?!? But let's suspend disbelief for a second and assume that MAB is downloading his own stuff from ameede.net and reuploading it at GrabCAD. In that case, he is promoting a private website which is forbidden according to rule:
7) Do not solicit or market for a private business or website
Fun & Games ;-)
It is one big ly!!!
But what bothers me more, is the fact that I'm asked, after reporting on a model, filled with work from others, to provide a link to the original ameede file in order to proove it.....and when I provide that link to GC, suddenly there are new "rules" about ownership/permission/copyright, etc, etc....and together with the wonderfull story about "the active member of ameede" is the reason that the model "The Throne of Kesa" is still here (together with thousands of other models packed with ameede material) .....This is getting rediculous!!!!
I have searched and found an even older version of the lion here:
https://archive3d.net/?a=download&id=e45deeaf
This was uploaded 12th August 2009 by someone named 'Go Fushen'.
The ameede.net version was uploaded 18th December 2020 So, obviously the ameede.net version is not the orginal and MAB is full of it.
So that means that my report about the use of the lion (work from others) was valid.. Perhaps if Yasin reads this he will act according the GrabCad rules....(and there are many more report about the use of work from www.ameede.net by MAB) I think he is exposed as a very fraudulent member who is lying to the GC staff about the origin of his models.....Think that there is more than ONE model that needs to be removed...In the "Old"GC days the account of MAB would have been terminated by Sara Sigel a long time ago....But GrabCad nowadays is happy with "Thrones" dedicated to staffmembers, build from (proven) stolen material..... If there is no GC action on the Throne, it will be very dissapointing and I will have to think very hard if I want to keep participating......But let's wait and see what happens....
I reported the "Throne" again, now with your link from the lion added....
Lets see if there is anybody in there.....(sounds like a Pink Floyd song)
https://www.ameede.net/sitting-lion-b007891-file-stl-free-download-3d-model-for-cnc-and-3d-printer/
https://archive3d.net/?a=download&id=e45deeaf
The origin of the lion, MAB uploads work not from own hands, and that is a violation....GrabCad is very clear what happen to work that is not from own hands...
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